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Can we expect a double dip recession?

May 18, 2009

By Bill Conerly, Businomics, Conerly Consulting LLC

An audience member at one of my recent speeches asks how much of a drop in economic activity will occur due to de-leveraging and the end of stimulus programs.  Can we expect a double dip recession?

Good question.  I’m not expecting a really strong economic performance in the 2011 and 2012, but neither do I necessarily see another recession.  Let’s talk first about de-leveraging.  It applies heavily to investment banks and hedge funds, but a lot of their activity was lending amongst themselves so that their bets were heavily leveraged.  That has already slowed a great deal, with little impact on Main Street.  (Main Street is more heavily impacted by the housing construction collapse and the fall in consumer confidence.)  Here’s what corporate leverage looks like:

I could see corporations being a little more cautious, but they’ve already slashed capital spending pretty deeply.  I don’t expect a major effort to pay down debt.

The real issue is with consumers.  Here’s a picture of the long-term savings rate:

Note that there are plenty of short-term swings, but the longer term shifts take some time.  The drop from seven percent to two percent took nine years.  If consumers move their savings rate up at the same pace, they cut the growth rate of their spending by 0.56 percentage points per year.  Or, if real incomes are growing by 3 percent (long-run average), spending grows by 2.44%.  That would cut real spending by $46 billion in one year.  Seems manageable.

What of the withdrawal of stimulus?  Monetary stimulus will only be withdrawn if the economy is growing briskly.  The fiscal stimulus would get withdrawn if ….   Hmmm.  To get a scenariou with fiscal restraint, I need to envision the Republicans getting enough power to bring back gridlock.  If they got a majority on the House or the Senate, it could happen.  We’d be back to focusing on the blue dress (or whatever the modern equivalent is) and complaining that nothing gets done in Washington.  (Actually, I would not be complaining, but the New York Times and the Washington Post would be.)  So what’s the odds that the Republicans stage a resurgence?    That asks for political speculation, which I’m going to avoid.

Would that gridlock, if it happened, mean a recession?  No, it would mean that we could grow our way out of the deficit.  If I hadn’t seen it happen once in my lifetime, I would believe that it never could happen.

Anyway, double dip recession?  Possible, but I’m betting against it.

— Bill Conerly is principal of Conerly Consulting LLC, chief economist of, and was previously Senior Vice President at First Interstate Bank. Bill Conerly writes up-to-date comments on the economy on his blog called “Businomics” and produces a monthly audio magazine available on CD. Conerly is author of “Businomics™: From the Headlines to Your Bottom Line: How to Profit in Any Economic Cycle”, which connects the dots between the economic news and business decisions.

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John May 18, 2009

Hope Bill is right – it’s always nice to hear some good news mixed in the bad.

Dave May 18, 2009

I hate to be a pessimist, but I could see a triple dip recession if the banks and pres. do not get their act together. I mena who feels that the best decisions are being made right now?

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